vistabootpro does not work

I can multiboot Vista and XP by starting the BIOS setup program and selecting the Hard disk which should be the boot device, but this is a bit inconvenient.
So I downloaded www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro to multiboot between XP and Vista. I installed the program under Vista.
When I boot the computer from the Vista disk, the multiboot menu appears. If I select Vista, Vista starts. However, if I select XP, the computer reboots. -- Jos�

This is because you have Vista and XP isolated. If you had setup the computer so that Vista could see XP when it was installing, you would not experience this issue. Another user that posted here and also at PROnetworks, had this exact same problem where XP was invisible to Vista during setup. ---------- Mark Dietz PROnetworks <http://www.pro-networks.org> http://imnuts.gotdns.org/blog/
Jos� wrote:

I can multiboot Vista and XP by starting the BIOS setup program and selecting the Hard disk which should be the boot device, but this is a bit inconvenient.
So I downloaded www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro to multiboot between XP and Vista. I installed the program under Vista.
When I boot the computer from the Vista disk, the multiboot menu appears. If I select Vista, Vista starts. However, if I select XP, the computer reboots.

If you install Vista second and do not disable the XP drive during installation you will get a proper boot options screen and functionality.
I think that if you had the XP drive disabled during Vista setup then the Boot Configuration Data store would not have been written to the XP drive, allowing multibooting via a boot options screen.
"Jos�" wrote in message

I can multiboot Vista and XP by starting the BIOS setup program and selecting the Hard disk which should be the boot device, but this is a bit inconvenient.
So I downloaded www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro to multiboot between XP and Vista. I installed the program under Vista.
When I boot the computer from the Vista disk, the multiboot menu appears. If I select Vista, Vista starts. However, if I select XP, the computer reboots. -- Jos�

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:33:52 -0400, Mark Dietz wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:

If you had setup the computer so that Vista could see XP when it was installing, you would not experience this issue.

Well, XP is on NTFS, and Vista can read NTFS.
After installing Vista, I could see all my XP files. So why would Vista not see them during installation? -- Jos�

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:42:41 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:

If you install Vista second and do not disable the XP drive during installation you will get a proper boot options screen and functionality.
I think that if you had the XP drive disabled during Vista setup then the Boot Configuration Data store would not have been written to the XP drive, allowing multibooting via a boot options screen.

I never disabled anything.
Many years ago I had a computer with two hard disks and a hardware switch to select one of them. (I never tried what happened if I toggled the switch while the computer was active.) Of course either disk was unable to see the other one.
But my Vista is certainly able to see the entire XP installation and nothing has been disabled. -- Jos�

So when you installed VistaBootPro on the Vista drive you got nothing in VistaBootPro? If the BCD store did not get written on the XP root, then it had to be written on the Vista drive. Something is certainly amiss here.
"Jos�" wrote in message

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:42:41 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
If you install Vista second and do not disable the XP drive during installation you will get a proper boot options screen and functionality.
I think that if you had the XP drive disabled during Vista setup then the Boot Configuration Data store would not have been written to the XP drive, allowing multibooting via a boot options screen.
I never disabled anything.
Many years ago I had a computer with two hard disks and a hardware switch to select one of them. (I never tried what happened if I toggled the switch while the computer was active.) Of course either disk was unable to see the other one.
But my Vista is certainly able to see the entire XP installation and nothing has been disabled. -- Jos�

Jos� schrieb:

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:33:52 -0400, Mark Dietz <imnuts@gmail.com wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
If you had setup the computer so that Vista could see XP when it was installing, you would not experience this issue.
Well, XP is on NTFS, and Vista can read NTFS.
After installing Vista, I could see all my XP files. So why would Vista not see them during installation?

Because Vista is not you! You use the explorer in Vista to see your XP files - but when Vista is being installed, the explorer is not yet there; Vista is installing itself from DVD in a predefined routine which asks *you* for additional drivers (via F6) or other input.
rOy

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:48:21 +0200, Jos� wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 10:42:41 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
If you install Vista second and do not disable the XP drive during installation you will get a proper boot options screen and functionality.
I think that if you had the XP drive disabled during Vista setup then the Boot Configuration Data store would not have been written to the XP drive, allowing multibooting via a boot options screen.
I never disabled anything.
Many years ago I had a computer with two hard disks and a hardware switch to select one of them. (I never tried what happened if I toggled the switch while the computer was active.) Of course either disk was unable to see the other one.
But my Vista is certainly able to see the entire XP installation and nothing has been disabled.

Jose, You will get the situation you describe without disabling anything if: 1 -- you boot the computer from the Vista DVD and 2 -- install Vista on a separate partition.
To get Vista's Boot Configuration Data store written on the XP drive, you must boot to XP and then launch the Vista Setup program from within XP. If you boot from the Vista DVD, you leave the boot sector on the XP partition unchanged, and you write a bootsector on the Vista partition that directs the boot process to the BCD store on the Vista partition only when that drive is specified as "first" in BIOS.
I think that the easiest way for you to correct this problem is to simply reinstall Vista from within XP. What I cannot tell you is whether you need to delete the Vista partition (in order to get rid of its MBR and boot sector) before doing so. To be sure that the second installation goes right, though, I'd do that.

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:59:32 -0400, milleron wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:

Jose, You will get the situation you describe without disabling anything if: 1 -- you boot the computer from the Vista DVD and 2 -- install Vista on a separate partition.
Yes, that's exactly what I did. It's the normal way to install an

operating system, isn't it. -- Jos�

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:29:01 +0200, Jos� wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:59:32 -0400, milleron millerDOT90@SPAMLESSosu.edu> wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
Jose, You will get the situation you describe without disabling anything if: 1 -- you boot the computer from the Vista DVD and 2 -- install Vista on a separate partition.
Yes, that's exactly what I did. It's the normal way to install an operating system, isn't it.

Yes, it is, but with Vista, it puts your BCD store on a drive you probably never intended. It may be a feature or it may be a bug. I'm not sure. Nevertheless, the result you got was exactly what happened to everyone else who intended to dual boot but installed from the DVD directly instead of launching Vista Setup from XP.
It's costing you and many others a lot of extra effort. Give MS some negative feedback on this problem. Setup should be smart enough to see the XP installation and ask if you want to dual boot, no matter how you launch it. Unfortunately, it's not that smar.

milleron wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:29:01 +0200, Jos� wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:59:32 -0400, milleron millerDOT90@SPAMLESSosu.edu> wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
Jose, You will get the situation you describe without disabling anything if: 1 -- you boot the computer from the Vista DVD and 2 -- install Vista on a separate partition.
Yes, that's exactly what I did. It's the normal way to install an operating system, isn't it.
Yes, it is, but with Vista, it puts your BCD store on a drive you probably never intended. It may be a feature or it may be a bug. I'm not sure. Nevertheless, the result you got was exactly what happened to everyone else who intended to dual boot but installed from the DVD directly instead of launching Vista Setup from XP.
It's costing you and many others a lot of extra effort. Give MS some negative feedback on this problem. Setup should be smart enough to see the XP installation and ask if you want to dual boot, no matter how you launch it. Unfortunately, it's not that smar.

Interesting, I booted from the DVD, clean install to a new partition, Vista saw my exsisting XP Pro install and offered me a dual boot option. Now running no probs with XP Pro as the default boot.
Vista x86
-- Steve
A bank is a place that will lend you money if you can prove that you don't need it. - Bob Hope

It is not a bug. Vista does not use boot.ini. There is a lot of new technology in this area and MS is moving forward. Essentially, it should not matter whether or not you start Setup from the desktop or from a hard boot. You should get a boot options scenario either way. The technology can take into account the existance of the other Windows installations in the system.
"milleron" wrote in message

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:29:01 +0200, Jos� wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:59:32 -0400, milleron millerDOT90@SPAMLESSosu.edu> wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
Jose, You will get the situation you describe without disabling anything if: 1 -- you boot the computer from the Vista DVD and 2 -- install Vista on a separate partition.
Yes, that's exactly what I did. It's the normal way to install an operating system, isn't it.
Yes, it is, but with Vista, it puts your BCD store on a drive you probably never intended. It may be a feature or it may be a bug. I'm not sure. Nevertheless, the result you got was exactly what happened to everyone else who intended to dual boot but installed from the DVD directly instead of launching Vista Setup from XP.
It's costing you and many others a lot of extra effort. Give MS some negative feedback on this problem. Setup should be smart enough to see the XP installation and ask if you want to dual boot, no matter how you launch it. Unfortunately, it's not that smar.

Exacly, Steve. There is a misperception spreading that you have to start Setup from the desktop to get a multiboot scenario. What do they think would happen in a system that already dual-booted (say, XP Home and XP Pro)? After all, they could only start Setup from one or the other.
"Steve" wrote in message

milleron wrote: On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:29:01 +0200, Jos� wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:59:32 -0400, milleron millerDOT90@SPAMLESSosu.edu> wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
Jose, You will get the situation you describe without disabling anything if: 1 -- you boot the computer from the Vista DVD and 2 -- install Vista on a separate partition.
Yes, that's exactly what I did. It's the normal way to install an operating system, isn't it.
Yes, it is, but with Vista, it puts your BCD store on a drive you probably never intended. It may be a feature or it may be a bug. I'm not sure. Nevertheless, the result you got was exactly what happened to everyone else who intended to dual boot but installed from the DVD directly instead of launching Vista Setup from XP.
It's costing you and many others a lot of extra effort. Give MS some negative feedback on this problem. Setup should be smart enough to see the XP installation and ask if you want to dual boot, no matter how you launch it. Unfortunately, it's not that smar.
Interesting, I booted from the DVD, clean install to a new partition, Vista saw my exsisting XP Pro install and offered me a dual boot option. Now running no probs with XP Pro as the default boot.
Vista x86
-- Steve
A bank is a place that will lend you money if you can prove that you don't need it. - Bob Hope

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:52:15 +0100, Steve wrote:

milleron wrote: On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:29:01 +0200, Jos� wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:59:32 -0400, milleron millerDOT90@SPAMLESSosu.edu> wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
Jose, You will get the situation you describe without disabling anything if: 1 -- you boot the computer from the Vista DVD and 2 -- install Vista on a separate partition.
Yes, that's exactly what I did. It's the normal way to install an operating system, isn't it.
Yes, it is, but with Vista, it puts your BCD store on a drive you probably never intended. It may be a feature or it may be a bug. I'm not sure. Nevertheless, the result you got was exactly what happened to everyone else who intended to dual boot but installed from the DVD directly instead of launching Vista Setup from XP.
It's costing you and many others a lot of extra effort. Give MS some negative feedback on this problem. Setup should be smart enough to see the XP installation and ask if you want to dual boot, no matter how you launch it. Unfortunately, it's not that smar.
Interesting, I booted from the DVD, clean install to a new partition, Vista saw my exsisting XP Pro install and offered me a dual boot option. Now running no probs with XP Pro as the default boot.
Vista x86

That's interesting, too. This forum is rife with posts about getting the BCD store on a drive other than the intended one, just like OP here. In all these instances, the user was not given any options about dual booting. The common denominator seems to have been the method of launching Setup. I'm not sure what causes this variability in experience, but I wonder if it might have something to do with the format of the partitions and logical drives on which the original (usually XP) installation was located -- i.e., could mixing FAT32 and NTFS partitions cause some of the mixups? Did you have XP on an NTFS volume? How about Jose?

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:06:23 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

Exacly, Steve. There is a misperception spreading that you have to start Setup from the desktop to get a multiboot scenario. What do they think would happen in a system that already dual-booted (say, XP Home and XP Pro)? After all, they could only start Setup from one or the other.

I know that the number of posts here is getting so large that searching is difficult, but Jose's experience is anything but unique. There have been many people reporting the same thing that Jose did. I'm not at all sure that Setup always "sees" all the existing operating systems if it's launched from a booted DVD.

"Steve" wrote in message milleron wrote: On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:29:01 +0200, Jos� wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:59:32 -0400, milleron millerDOT90@SPAMLESSosu.edu> wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
Jose, You will get the situation you describe without disabling anything if: 1 -- you boot the computer from the Vista DVD and 2 -- install Vista on a separate partition.
Yes, that's exactly what I did. It's the normal way to install an operating system, isn't it.
Yes, it is, but with Vista, it puts your BCD store on a drive you probably never intended. It may be a feature or it may be a bug. I'm not sure. Nevertheless, the result you got was exactly what happened to everyone else who intended to dual boot but installed from the DVD directly instead of launching Vista Setup from XP.
It's costing you and many others a lot of extra effort. Give MS some negative feedback on this problem. Setup should be smart enough to see the XP installation and ask if you want to dual boot, no matter how you launch it. Unfortunately, it's not that smar.
Interesting, I booted from the DVD, clean install to a new partition, Vista saw my exsisting XP Pro install and offered me a dual boot option. Now running no probs with XP Pro as the default boot.
Vista x86
-- Steve
A bank is a place that will lend you money if you can prove that you don't need it. - Bob Hope

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:20:34 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

It is not a bug. Vista does not use boot.ini. There is a lot of new technology in this area and MS is moving forward. Essentially, it should not matter whether or not you start Setup from the desktop or from a hard boot. You should get a boot options scenario either way. The technology can take into account the existance of the other Windows installations in the system.

Absent a bug, then, how do you account for the large number of people reporting botched dual-boot installations? I think I've reviewed all or almost all of these posts. There are many people reporting that they're BCD stores have been installed on the Vista partition rather than on the partition with the original OS, and I don't recall any of them stating that Setup offered them any options about setting up dual booting.

"milleron" wrote in message On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:29:01 +0200, Jos� wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:59:32 -0400, milleron millerDOT90@SPAMLESSosu.edu> wrote in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
Jose, You will get the situation you describe without disabling anything if: 1 -- you boot the computer from the Vista DVD and 2 -- install Vista on a separate partition.
Yes, that's exactly what I did. It's the normal way to install an operating system, isn't it.
Yes, it is, but with Vista, it puts your BCD store on a drive you probably never intended. It may be a feature or it may be a bug. I'm not sure. Nevertheless, the result you got was exactly what happened to everyone else who intended to dual boot but installed from the DVD directly instead of launching Vista Setup from XP.
It's costing you and many others a lot of extra effort. Give MS some negative feedback on this problem. Setup should be smart enough to see the XP installation and ask if you want to dual boot, no matter how you launch it. Unfortunately, it's not that smar.

Absent a bug, then, how do you account for the large number of people reporting botched dual-boot installations? I think I've reviewed all

or almost all of these posts. There are many people reporting that they're BCD stores have been installed on the Vista partition rather than on the partition with the original OS, and I don't recall any of them stating that Setup offered them any options about setting up dual booting.
milleron: FYI:
My setup: Not using any 3rd party boot mgrs Installed Vista beta2 via DVD boot Vista was the last op system installed
Hard disk layouts: Disk 0: Primary partition (is 1 vol) Extended partition with 5 vols 2 op systems installed in separate vols XP Home is in Primary partition XP Pro is in a vol in the extended partition
Disk 1: (no Primary partition) Extended partition with 9 vols 4 op systems installed in separate vols Includes XP Pro and two Win2k3 server installs Vista is in the last vol
Per Vista: Previous C: is now "Local Disc D:" Has \Boot folder (BCD store) Vista vol is now drive C:
Per XP: Vista vol is drive Q:
Comments: (I have installed Vista twice into same vol) All vols use NTFS
No dialogs re: dual booting were displayed during Vista install BCD store is on the non-Vista view drive C: (has XP Home)
All op systems are usable via the Vista boot mgr The default via the Vista boot menu is Vista The XP boot.ini menu is used for the non-Vista op systems
Following was added to boot.ini file via Vista install: ; ;Warning: Boot.ini is used on Windows XP and earlier operating systems. ;Warning: Use BCDEDIT.exe to modify Windows Vista boot options. ;

Absent a bug, then, how do you account for the large number of people reporting botched dual-boot installations? I think I've reviewed all

or almost all of these posts. There are many people reporting that they're BCD stores have been installed on the Vista partition rather than on the partition with the original OS, and I don't recall any of them stating that Setup offered them any options about setting up dual booting.
milleron: FYI:
My setup: Not using any 3rd party boot mgrs Installed Vista beta2 via DVD boot Vista was the last op system installed
Hard disk layouts: Disk 0: Primary partition (is 1 vol) Extended partition with 5 vols 2 op systems installed in separate vols XP Home is in Primary partition XP Pro is in a vol in the extended partition
Disk 1: (no Primary partition) Extended partition with 9 vols 4 op systems installed in separate vols Includes XP Pro and two Win2k3 server installs Vista is in the last vol
Per Vista: Previous C: is now "Local Disc D:" Has \Boot folder (BCD store) Vista vol is now drive C:
Per XP: Vista vol is drive Q:
Comments: (I have installed Vista twice into same vol) All vols use NTFS
No dialogs re: dual booting were displayed during Vista install BCD store is on the non-Vista view drive C: (has XP Home)
All op systems are usable via the Vista boot mgr The default via the Vista boot menu is Vista The XP boot.ini menu is used for the non-Vista op systems
Following was added to boot.ini file via Vista install: ; ;Warning: Boot.ini is used on Windows XP and earlier operating systems. ;Warning: Use BCDEDIT.exe to modify Windows Vista boot options. ;

I'm having the same issues this is what I did please someone tell me what I did wrong because I'm very confused.
I installed XP first fresh install and partitioned off my first Hard drive. I then installed vista which saw the partition for XP, I then installed it on my second hard drive.
but it never gave me an option for duel boot at all what am I doing wrong?

You say you did a fresh install of XP and then partitioned your first hard drive. What do you mean by "partitioned off my first hard drive"? What did you use to do that? Second you say you installed Vista on your second hard drive. What was the purpose of partitioning the first hard drive if you were going to install Vista on the second? I'm just trying to get a picture of how you proceeded. Finally, please give the details of your computer.
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I'm having the same issues this is what I did please someone tell me what I did wrong because I'm very confused.
I installed XP first fresh install and partitioned off my first Hard drive. I then installed vista which saw the partition for XP, I then installed it on my second hard drive.
but it never gave me an option for duel boot at all what am I doing wrong?

Ok np, When I first got vista I did I fresh install making it the only OS on my machine, but I had alot of compatablitiy issues with vista so I planned on making a multi-boot so I could still use my programs not yet vista compatable. When I tried to install XP on my second hard drive it ended up erasing vista on my primary HD and put XP on my slave. So I did a fresh install of both, Xp first and created a partion on my slave for XP which it defined as disk D:\ and installed XP there. I then Installed vista on my primary HD which it defined as disk C:\. It never asked me for anything about multi-booting, my files for XP are all still in my slave HD as I can see them there. I've looked on the microsoft help page for vista multi booting and they tell you to do something in command prompt but when I try to edit the boot files it comes back boot creation failed acess denied or something like that.
Alienware Area-51 custom P4 2.53 GHz 1.00 GB DDR (Primary IDE) Mstr: Samsung 250 GB HD Slve: Samsung 40 GB HD (Secondary IDE) Mstr: HP DVD Burner Slve: Samsung DVD Rom
I only recently got my second hard drive and have never had a reason to multi-boot till now so I'm alittle green on this whole subject, learning as I go, any help is welcome

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